Arnav Kadian & Julian Lin
Co-Strategists for Dr. Justin Sung

Three days after a sponsored video went live, a brand emailed Julian Lin and Arnav Kadian (co-strategists for a 2M+ subscriber YouTube channel) with shocking news:
Their sponsored video hit 60-80K views.
The brand also recouped 50% of their investment already. The video then went on to hit 6.3 million views and deliver a 20x return for the brand.
What makes this even more shocking, Julian and Arnav never promised a viral hit. In fact, the deal was never designed to need 6 million views to be considered a win.
This is the story of how two YouTube strategists turned a reactive, inbound-only, email-only sponsorship process into a system precise enough to land a 12x repeat deal…
…without either of them ever being the creator on camera.
The Problem: Reactive By Default
Julian and Arnav are the co-strategists behind Dr. Justin Sung's YouTube channel, one of the largest educational brands in the learning-and-productivity space. Their job covers everything from video ideas and titles to scripts and overall channel strategy, and over the past year, a growing piece of that job has been sponsorships.
Before discovering Creator Wizard, their entire sponsorship process was reactive.
"Most of our brand deals are actually inbound," Julian said. "We didn't really have the perspective of being able to do outbound for brand deals."
Every negotiation happened over email, they never got on a call with a brand, and without any kind of repeatable framework, pricing and packaging came down to instinct.
"It was a workflow that had a lot of guesswork on the type of things we should and shouldn't be doing," Julian said. "We didn't really have any proper first principles."
The result?
Sponsorships weren’t much of a revenue stream for their client, Dr. Justin Sung… yet.
Get on the Call Before You Talk Numbers
The biggest change Justin Moore’s teachings (Creator Wizard) pushed them toward was a simple one:
To get on a call with the brand before discussing metrics or pricing.
That meant doing the homework first.
Remember that brand email from the intro, the one celebrating 50% ROI at just 60-80K views?
Before hopping on that initial discovery call, Julian and Arnav had already researched the brand's mission, their past campaigns, the other creators they'd worked with, and whether the goal of the campaign was awareness or conversion.
Then, instead of jumping straight into a pitch, they opened the call by reflecting the brand's own goals back to them.
"In our first few slides, we explicitly said, 'Here's what we heard you care about is this accurate?'" Julian explained.
That one move did a LOT of work, and positioned Julian and Arnav as strategists who genuinely cared about getting the brand great results:
It showed they paid attention
It also got everyone looking at the same set of priorities before a single dollar or deliverable was discussed
As Arnav said, per a lesson he took from Creator Wizard:
"The biggest thing we did was simply showing them how much we cared."
Brands who'd worked with plenty of creators hadn't seen that approach before, and it significantly changed how seriously they were treated from that point forward.
The First Deal: Dissecting “the Gap”
Once Julian and Arnav understood the brand, the next piece was making sure the sponsored content fit it properly.
First, they noticed their channel's audience overlapped with the brand's target audience (Demographically AND in how their audience thought and behaved). From there, they identified a content format that had performed well in the niche before, but had never been paired with this kind of product integration. Meaning, they were the first to combine the two!
Then, there’s discipline.
Julian and Arnav ran roughly ten A/B tests on the video's title alone, hunting for the exact combination of words that would earn the click.
"It was the sum of a lot of small decisions and a lot of additional research," Julian said.
And critically, they never oversold the brand on what to expect. "We didn't over-promise this brand," Arnav said. "Our biggest priority for that first deal was not to make it the biggest deal possible, but to make it as easy for the brand as possible… and to over-deliver."
That's why the early signal mattered so much.
The brand didn't need 6.3 million views to feel like the partnership was already working, only that it was on track.
From One Deal to a 12x Repeat Partnership
The video's eventual performance (6.3 million views, a 20x ROI) was the proof point that Julian and Arnav’s approach had worked. But it wasn’t until the second deal that their success was proven more than a one-time fluke.
That follow-up partnership came in at 12 times the revenue of the first deal. Which, as Arnav broke down, were mainly influenced by 5 distinct factors:
Staying visibly responsive. They didn't wait for the video to post to stay in touch. They kept the brand updated at every stage, so the brand never wondered where things stood.
Over-delivering on the first deal. By the time they reconnected, the brand's response was, "You guys are my favorite brand to work with. How can we work again?"
Playing the long game. They weren't pushy about packages, timelines, or contract details. "We were very accommodating," Arnav said. "And the way that we were very accommodating, they did the same for us."
Setting honest expectations. YouTube is an organic platform, not a paid-ads platform. So instead of promising a guaranteed outcome, they were upfront about the range of possible results, including the uncapped upside the first campaign had already delivered.
Running a post-campaign review. They returned with a full breakdown connecting the brand's original goals to the data, plus an honest account of what they'd do the same (and differently) next time.
That last point did double duty.
The brand's priorities had shifted a bit between deals (from pure awareness toward more conversion-focused goals).
Because Julian and Arnav had built in a review process based on Justin Moore's book, Sponsor Magnet, they caught the shift in priorities and adjusted their packaging (rather than repeating what had worked before for the wrong goal).
"We wanted ourselves to be the easiest person to do brand deals with. Because when you make life easy for [the brand], they tend to want to work with you."
What's Next: Beyond YouTube
Julian and Arnav’s partnership with Dr. Justin Sung has since outgrown only YouTube.
Julian and Arnav are now in early conversations (CEO to CEO) about a partnership that goes beyond YouTube sponsorships entirely, into product integration and collaboration across other channels.
"Both of our companies are very value-aligned," Arnav said. "We're targeting a similar audience and solving adjacent issues."
The Takeaway
When asked what made the biggest difference, Arnav's answer had nothing to do with titles, A/B tests, or even the size of the deal.
"The biggest impact was just realizing that there's actually a recipe to landing brand deals," he said. "There's a step-by-step process you can follow. And for each step, there are considerations, guidelines, ways to troubleshoot when you run into issues."
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